Is there two alcaeus's? please help.

Rebecca

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I am doing research on Amphitryon, and am looking for information on his father King Alcaeus of Tiryns.

When i search for Alcaeus i am getting information for a Poet around 620bce? not a king. Was there two Alcaeus in the Greek Myths, if someone could clear this up for me that would be great.
 

Alejandro

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In Greek mythology there were at least 6 Alkaioi [Alcaei, "Alcaeus~es"], the best-known one being the one you're asking about: Amphitryon's dad. (The Athenian poet you've mentioned is one of several famous historical ["real-life"] figures bearing the same name.)

The mythical king Alkaios [Alcaeus] was one of the seven sons (perhaps the third-born of them) of the hero Perseus, a son of Zeus famous for having slain the Gorgon Medusa. Alkaios' mother, Perseus' wife Andromeda, was a princess of Aithiopia [Ethiopia], and herself a descendant of Zeus and Poseidon. Alkaios was probably born after his brothers Perses and Mestor, and his sister Gorgophone. Alkaios, Mestor and another brother, Sthenelos [Sthenelus], were married to daughters of Pelops. Alkaios' wife was called Astydameia, although there is an alternate version in which Alkaios is married to the Theban princess Hipponome. In yet one other version Alkaios' wife was Laonome, the daughter of an otherwise unknown Arcadian named Guneus.

Pittheus, a son of Pelops and therefore a brother-in-law of Alkaios, founded the city of Troizenos [Troezen] in the territory ruled by the sons of Perseus. Alkaios became a co-ruler of the city together with Pittheus, who would later become grandfather of Theseus, who would gain fame for killing the Minotaur.

Alkaios had a daughter Anaxo, therefore sister of Amphitryon, who he married to his own brother, her uncle Elektryon [Electryon]. Anaxo and Elektryon became the parents of Alkmene [Alcmene], who grew up to marry Amphitryon, who was thus both her cousin and her uncle. Alkmene bore Amphitryon a son and a daughter, and she also was the mother by Zeus of the greatest Greek hero Herakles [Heracles], whom the Romans called Hercules. Alkaios is also said to have had a third child, a daughter named Perimede, who married her own cousin Likymnios [Licymnius], the illegitimate son of Elektryon by a slave named Mideia.

When Herakles was born, Amphitryon named him Alkaios, after Amphitryon's own father, or he called him Alkides [Alcides], "[Son] Of Alkaios." Herakles later changed his name after he had, in a fit of madness, killed his own wife and children, and was attempting to appease his stepmother the goddess Hera by calling himself "Hera's Glory," which is what Herakles means.

Herakles himself had a son named Alkaios, whom he had sired upon a Lydian slave, and whose descendants were kings of Lydia. This Alkaios is otherwise said to have been called Kleolaos [Cleolaus].

Another Alkaios was a king of Paros who was involved in a misadventure with Herakles. For details on him and another mythical Alkaios who fought in the Trojan War, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcaeus_(mythology)

For more on Amphitryon, check this out: http://www.maicar.com/GML/Amphitryon.html
 

bryn

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Alcaeus/Ay was the brother of Electryon/Alectryon['rooster/cockerel/gallus'];a name for Helios/Atum/Horus/Sun/Amunhotep III.
The eagle was sacred to Mercury/Boreas/Aquilo.
Electryone/Alectrona,daughter of Helios[Electryon/Sun god] on Rhodes.
Perseus=Mithras/Mitra[Revanta/Theseus],the Persian god of the evening star[Misharu/'Law'/Osiris].Ahura Mazda/Hormuzd=Shamash/Surya/Apollo/Khepri[god of Spring].
As god of Spring linked to the Sun in Spring.Shamash/Nergal/Reshef=Mars[Aplu Enlil/Apollo].
Vahagn=Verethraghna[Heracles/Set].
Andromeda[Meda/Scylla] is a name for Eos/Isis/Iset/Io[ Dawn/Aurora/Ushas/Iusaaset].Prometheus=Ganesha/
Horus[Aquarius].Argus Panoptes=Perseus of Argos.Hermes[Thoth/Thoas/Da'ud/David/Fionn/Gwyn]=Taurus constellation.
Cyclops/Cocles/Goll[one-eyed]=Goliath/Galyat/Orion/Polyphemus.
Lug/lynx=Lynceus/Lyncus=Apollo.Cian=Cyanippus/Cephalus=Mercury.Setanta/Cuchulainn[Canicula/Canis Minor/Set/Caeneus/Caenis]=Heracles.
Cult of Lynceus probably spead to Lugdunum/Lyon from Pisa in Etruria/Tuscany.Balor[Bellerus]=Sun-god/Atum/Horus.
Theseus[Perseus/Mitra] linked to Orion and Minotaur/Haoma/Moon-god linked to constellation Lepus/Hare-god and constellation Taurus[Jonah/Pelias/Dove/Cedalion/Gu(d)galanna].
Arcturus[Bootes]=Phasis River in Colchis.Hercules constellation=Oak tree in which was the golden fleece[Corona Borealis/ball of golden flax/wool given by Ariadne to Theseus].Draco above Arcturus guards golden fleece.Argo Navis to the south[Iolcus well north of Iolcus].
Min[Pan/Paean/Cronus/Priapus/Prajapati] was from Chemmis/Akhmim.
Ismenian serpent =Serpens Cauda of Ophiuchus[Eshmun].Cadmus=constellation Aquila[Mercury/Adam/Enlil].
Apollo=Surya/Shamash/Mars/Nergal.Demeter=Saranyu[Sirona/Aphrodite/Artemis/Seren/Ishtar/Stilbe].
Surya[Apollo] and Saranyu[Stilbe] were the parents of Lapithus/Caeneus/Caenis/Yama and Centaurus/Revanta/Ashvin.Revanta=Mithras/Perseus/Theseus/Misharu/Argus Panoptes.
Atum=Helios/Horus[Sun-god/god of Autumn] and was often confused with Surya[god of Spring].
Athena Hellotis=Europa Hellotis/Gaea/Ge/Tefnut[daughter of Atum/Helios].Helle=Hel[Persephone/Isis].
Ashvins[Nasatyas]=Centaurs[Yama and Revanta].Nephele=Chhaya[shadow of Saranyu].
Chhaya linked to Gaea/Gaia[Mother Earth],and so was the mother of Shani[Cronus/Saturn/Saon].Shani=Bata/Attis/Atys/Wepwawet/Lycus/Lycaon/Lycomedes.Nephthys=Deidamia.
Stilbe[Nut/Venus] should be the daughter of Stilbon/Mercury[Shu].
Cygnus [Cycnus] constellation =Ornis['bird']=Ornytion/Apollo/Zu/Ziu/Tiw/Mars.Thoas=Thoth/Hermes/Moon-god/Proetus/Tydeus/Anpu.
Tydeus had an image of the Moon on his shield and fought and died at the Proetid gate of Thebes.Hermes=Eshmun/
Asclepius,said to be Apollo's son[actually grandson].Asclepius was the son of Sisyphus/Dionysus[Osiris] and Ariadne
[Nephthys/Arianrhod/Luna].Thoas=Oenopion/Odysseus.
Anna Perenna=Hannahanna/Diana/Artemis/Inanna/Venus/Ishtar/Ino[wife of Mars Pyroeis/Ares and wife of Hephaestus/Min/Shani/Wepwawet].Hannahanna='grandmother'.Rhea Silvia=Repit[wife of Min/Pan].See Pitys/
Pine[Silvia=tree].See Mars Silvanus.
Cycnus[Apollo]=Ixion?=Mars Pyroeis['Fiery'].
Oenops=Oenopion[Odysseus/Odin/Raven-god/Corax/Corvinus]=Hermes/Arma/Moon-god[wrongly confused with Mercury at Rome.Actor=Actaeon[Tammuz/Aristaeus/Cronus/Coronus/Bran/Crow/Corvus;see brand
etymology in Wiktionary for word association].Horus=Aeon/Aion[son of Persephone/Isis at Alexandria].
Hermes[Uranus/Anu/Gu(d)galanna/Haoma/Minotaur/Men]=Taurus[bull castrated].
In Greek myth often sons of the god are simply epithets of the god in question[see Pans and Cycnus son of Ares].
Actaeon[son of Aristaeus] and Ixion[son of Ares] other examples of this annoying custom.
Abel=Tiw.Cain=Fenris-wolf/Lycus/Wepwawet/Hephaestus.
Erinys=Nemesis/Demeter/Cybele/Rhea[Repit/Rhea Silvia/Rhea Pitys],wife of Min/Pan/Cronus and daughter of Uranus and Gaia.Erinys/Erinyes[triplism] also wife of Ares[Nergal/Nereus].
Sow=planting seed and female pig=Demeter[pigs/piglets sacrificed to Demeter]/Nut[depicted as a sow]/Reret['sow']/
Opet/Ipet/Taweret[Ursa Major]/Ide/Ida/Idaea/Cybele.Cybele=Rhea/Ops=Fauna/Fatua/Bona Dea=Bateia/Myrina=
Atropos/Fata[Triphis/Repit/Het-Repit].St Ide=Deirdre[Derdriu]=Dryad/Eurydice.Orpheus=Apollo/Ares/Shamash/Samson.
Samson=Nisus.Scylla[egret/Eigr/Ygraine]=Delilah/Artemis/Delia/Leucophry(n)e/Nut.Min(os)=Pan/Cronus/Cain.
Comaetho[wife/consort,not daughter,of her victim] = Scylla.
Juno[Maia/Selene/Luna] was the daughter of Ops.The name Triphis may be the reason for three[tri] goddesses[Artemis/Aphrodite/Demeter] in Greek myth instead of just one [Venus].Triphis was a
goddess of love[Inanna/Ishtar/Astarte].Tammuz/Dumuzi=Duamutef/Wepwawet[Lycus]=Hephaestus/Cronus.
 
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